and talk to unitedhealthcare about our plans, like aarp medicarecomplete. let's get you on the right path. call today. ♪ >>> more top lawmakers have expressed the need to break away from the anti-tax activist grover norquist. here is another one. >> the key here is whether or not the republicans will move away from the ideologically rigid position which has been the grover norquist pledge. >> a pledge signed 20 years ago, 18 years ago is for that congress. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the kcountry only if democras will do entitlement reform. >> let me salute lindsey graham. what he said about revenue and taxes needs to be said on his side of the aisle. >> joining me now is the president of american bridge 21st century and a former spokesperson for harry reid and susan page and brad, a former spokesperson for brad. so you know the hill, the candidates well enough. susan, let me start with you. i feel like washington, we in the media get caught up. when senators speak, oh, wow, it must mean something. is it harsh to say it